not too long ago in a local congregation in massachusetts, two people were df'd for telling others about the wts involvement with the un...anyone else hear of this happenning in your area?
i guess teling othere the truth about the wts is not allowed either.
the lack of honesty and humility in this group never ceases to amaze me.
If its not mentioned in one of their publications then its not allowed to be mentioned. That's it.
Misspeaches, I think that doesn't really cover it
More like - If its not mentioned in one of their recent publications then its not allowed to be mentioned.
"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.
" ( matthew 10:23 ).
"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Are you saying that you think Matthew 16:28 has multiple fulfillments, or do you think that Jesus "coming in his kingdom" is referring solely to his "coming" to his apostles after his resurrection?
Neither
As an example of not being false - that being said, it could be as simple as keeping faith until seeing the risen Lord
Depends on where you're coming from - whether or not you want to nail him down before you lift him up
he stated; .
"all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
" 2 timothy 3:16,17. at the time of his writing this, much of what the universal [catholic] church later included in the now accepted nt canon was not written.
the sacred writings which are able to instruct you
It seems to me that certain groups have utilised these words to enforce law, rather than engage in humanities.
It doesn't say "the Law " - nor does it say "profitable for punishment"
"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.
" ( matthew 10:23 ).
"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
A risen killed person, in the Spirit, whose kingdom is not of this world shows up from who knows where, everyone calls him Lord, half the people you tell the story to alter lives, but he wasn't coming in his kingdom ?
i no longer call you slaves,.
because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.
because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.
Clearly, being "cut off" means the same thing as being "put to death".
Said by yourself the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live
what did their being "destroyed" mean for them? There was nothing figurative about their being "destroyed".
my Bible doesn't say "they were destroyed" - it simply says 'fell down and died' - did you know for a fact that it's really not figurative ?
I haven't recalled thinking about this particular burying, but have you thought about what 'burying' may mean - as Moses buried, and Tobias was tired of burying - for me it's about penance, act in repentance - it's also tied in with digging (of course) - people dig far enough in the hope for water
do you think you could understand this language
paduan
"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.
" ( matthew 10:23 ).
"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Did some of Jesus' listeners really live to see the "Son of man coming in his kingdom"?
On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
I personally like this one
So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore, full of large fish, a hundred and fifty-three of them; and although there were so many, the net was not torn. Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." Now none of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so with the fish. This was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.
i no longer call you slaves,.
because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.
because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.
Are we reading the same Bible? I'm quoting from the KJV..............it says........Him shall ye hear in ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER he shall say to you....
So why would you read it as Him shall ye hear OBEY in ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER he shall say to you (and OR ELSE)... ?
Acts 3:23 says that they "shall be destroyed."
Acts 3:23 says that every soul which will not hear that prophet shall be destroyed from among the people
Start with 'soul': it's the you that is 'I am who I am' - not the 'I am who they said I should be if I want to pass some judgement and test' - who or what is that ? as an insight, recall the term "borg", and recall the scripture, away from me I don't know who you are How can he say I don't know who you are ? It's to do with whether or not you even are who you are, or whether "you" don't even exist anymore (destroyed) - and that is your soul. Acts 3:23 teaches (me) that when you refuse to listen to the light of wisdom, the "you" is traded for something else (and the widow (soul) cried, "Avenge me against my adversary" (the flesh)) . You can end up being destroyed - a loss from among those who would be whole - it's not like some far off physical execution - it teaches how things are,
to me anyway
paduan
a number of posters here have said that the watchtower doctrine that jesus is not our mediator is the one that they find most disturbing.
for this reason i have written a new article to post on my site.
the article is long, but i would appreciate if people could check it for doctrinal and historical accuaracy.
since JWs will likely be reading with a sharply critical eye.
"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.
" ( matthew 10:23 ).
"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Apocalyptic cult leader prophesies falsely.
What about - fundamentalist literalist hasn't concieved spiritual prophecy
sunpar's words - may 21, 2006
the bible is just a book of clues to jog your memory in the age of dna activation (the cellular remembrance of who you are).
clues are just that, clues.
The bible is just a book of clues to jog your memory in the age of DNA activation (the cellular remembrance of who you are).
I think t
he bible is just a book of clues to jog your memory in the age of DNA activation - for me it's simply not about a physical sort of thing, but still - I am who I am: it's our family name
Do you think that you may have been led to whatever church you went to - I don't believe that all religion is like what you have portrayed
